Suzie Eller, Holley Gerth, and Jennifer Watson, writers and real-life friends, are inviting you to go deeper, become freer, and feel more connected with the More Than Small Talk Podcast.

Every episode includes a confession question as well as helpful truths, tips and resources. If you want more peace and less stress, more vulnerability and less trying to be perfect, more hope and less hustle this is the podcast for you.

May
29

Find Your Purpose in this Season (Episode 336)

More Than Small Talk

What’s your purpose? We discuss three myths about purpose, the two kinds of purpose, and how to find yours wherever you are right now. 

May
23

A Little More: Jesus With Skin On

More Than Small Talk

Show Notes - We may not have the right words, or know what to do, but we can still be a soft place to land.

May
22

A Soft Place to Land (Episode 335)

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What if grace is so much more than we ever imagined? We talk about what this familiar word really means, why it can be hard to receive, and how to fully embrace God’s love for us. 

May
16

A Little More: Healing Your Soul From Hurry

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Are you tired and craving a moment of peace? Join Holley to take a deep breath and receive the invitation of Jesus to rest and remember how much you’re loved. 

May
15

The Nature of Rest (Episode 334)

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What can hummingbirds teach us about the heart of God and what it means to truly rest? Master Naturalist Eryn Lynum, author The Nature of Rest, will help you see creation and your place in it from a new, freeing perspective. 

May
9

A Little More: Healing is Brave Work

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Whether it’s the end of a relationship, the death of someone we love, betrayal, or a painful disappointment, heartache doesn’t just hurt—it drains. Trusting again seems impossible. Getting out of bed is a win. Jennifer shares one truth we can cling to: healing from heartache is one of the bravest things you can do.

May
8

Healing from Life’s Deepest Hurts (Episode 333)

More Than Small Talk

How can you reclaim your life after grief, loss, or trauma? Author, counselor, and domestic abuse survivor Kimberly Haar shares her story. Her new book, Healing from Life’s Deepest Hurts, is part powerful testimony and part hope-giving therapy. 

May
2

A Little More: Knees Knocking, Heart Hammering, Trusting God

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The beauty of growth is not perfection, but partnering with God. 

May
1

Underestimated (Episode 332)

More Than Small Talk

What’s the surprisingly simple shift that will empower you to quit playing small, name the fear, and move forward anyway? Mary Marantz shares hard-won wisdom from her new book, Underestimated, that will give you new courage. 

Apr
25

A Little More: Help When Social Media Makes You Compare

More Than Small Talk

If scrolling on social media leads to feeling like you’re not doing enough, join Holley for an aha moment that will shift your perspective from comparing to taking a deep breath of grace. 

Apr
24

Social Media Reset (Episode 331)

More Than Small Talk

What does social media do to our souls? That’s the question Allie Marie Smith is passionate about answering in a conversation inspired by her new book, Social Media Reset. 

Apr
18

A Little More: Letting Go of Expectations

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We often live under the weight of expectations—our own, others’, or what we assume God requires. These expectations can quietly steal our joy, bind us in fear of failure, and leave us feeling like we’re never enough. But what if we were never meant to carry them? Jennifer shares some encouragement when we find it hard to let go.

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